In an effort to keep this blog more technically focused, also to encourage my kids to write blog entries, all of the trips and travel are moving to a new domains at http://driventoexplore.org/.
The last two summers we’ve done road trips out west, and this year we hooked up the new trailer and went for round three. Christi wanted to visit Mesa Verde and New Mexico, and I wanted to go four wheeling with the 200 LCDC group again, so from there we started our planning. Over the last year we decided we’d use our summer trips to try to hit all the US National Parks, which ultimately led us to add Big Bend to the end of our trip.
The LCDC this year was exploring the San Juan National Forest and picked Telluride, CO as the home base.
Days 1 to 3
We left Wednesday afternoon and made it to Cayton Campground about 20 minutes south of Telluride on Thursday evening around dinner time, only stopping overnight at a rest stop in Nebraska.
The following morning we met part of the group in Telluride, and decided to set out on the Alpine Loop. We gassed up and hit the road for Ouray, CO where the trailhead for Mineral Creek starts.
We stopped to air down at the trailhead, then took off into the rocks and shelf roads on the trail up to Engineer Pass. Half way up Mineral Creek the truck in front of us took a bad line, tried to correct, and ended up with two wheels hanging precariously off the road. I picked up the radio and relayed that he was “looking a little tippy and ought to stop right now.” (The next evening I was told I was apparently the king of understatement). We assessed the situation and ultimately determined that we needed to winch from the front and rear to get him onto stable ground safely. I got the change to test out my new winch, and about 30 minutes later we were back on the trail.
The rest of the day was uneventful. The Alpine Loop is beautiful, and we had an opportunity to stop at the top of Engineer Pass as well as a few ghost towns along the way to Lake City and across Cinnamon Pass back to Silverton.
By the time we were headed back to town it was almost 5pm, so we stopped at a brew pub in Ouray for dinner, then headed back to the campsite to do it again the next day.
On Saturday, Christi was tired of sitting in the car for three days, so I took Anna and Gabe and we headed back to Telluride for day 2 of the LCDC.
We met up in the parking lot and found a small group to do Imogene Pass and at least one person willing to do Black Bear Pass with us.
Most people (us included) travel Imogene from Telluride to Ouray (west to east), ascending the mining road up and over the mountain and then descending into the forest. It was a beautiful trip and aside from dragging the spare tire in a few spots the cruiser handled it with aplomb.
A huge thanks to Jeff from Baltimore (lazerturbo91 on ih8mud) who followed me on Imogene and Black Bear and took the photos of my truck – all the photos from day 2 shown here are courtesy of him. Thanks to CodyAustin as well, both for leading us up and over Imogene safely as well as for setting up this year’s LCDC.
To get back to Telluride we had two options. Cody and his family aired up and took the highway, but Jeff and I decided to brave the shorter but more treacherous Black Bear Pass. Black bear is known for its shelf road, steep drops several hundred feet tall, and extremely tight off-camber switchbacks. About once a year someone misjudges a ledge and rolls off; the week before we arrived someone rolled their FJ Cruiser (thankfully nobody was hurt). This would be not only my first time on Black Bear, but also my first time as a trail lead.
Just as we got to the start of the trail around 12:30pm the rain started. We decided to brave the summit and hope the weather would clear. The trip up was straight-forward dirt and rocks with rain on and off.
Our trucks handled the trail fine, though more than once I found myself scraping the spare tire or front bumper and radioed Jeff to take a different line than I had run. Although his plastic bumpers took a few hits his mostly stock truck did quite well.
We reached the summit just after 1pm and stretched our legs before the descent. The rain had temporarily stopped, but the wind had picked up and the clouds were rolling in quickly.
The initial descent went quick though the narrow shelf road was harrowing. We reached the most difficult part known as “the steps” and got out to walk the trail to see what we were up against. I would be going first, and with limited visibility inside the truck I asked Anna to spot me and Jeff to assist her.
The trail was steep, off camber, with a jagged rock wall on the passenger side ready to dig into the body panels and a steep drop off on the driver’s side. As Anna and Jeff started directing me down the steepest part, the rain and hail started.
The truck slipped on the wet rock in a few spots, sliding forward more than I had intended. Thankfully the two of them pointed me through the hardest parts quickly, and the rain slowed as we finished the first turn.
Jeff walked back to his truck and I got out to spot him on the way down next. The rain picked up, and his descent was even more slippery and harrowing than mine.
Jeff finished his descent and the rain stopped just in time for him to break out his drone for a few shots before a group of four other trucks came down behind us a few minutes later.
We hopped back in our trucks and headed down the mountain and the remaining switchbacks. Although the first few required a 7 point turn, none of them seemed as scary as that first switchback on the steps. The remaining shelf road was a relative breeze, and we were treated to a spectacular view of Bridal Veil Falls from the road below.
We headed into town and met the rest of the LCDC crew for a BBQ dinner in downtown Telluride, anxious to share our stories of battle over a few local pints. I’d absolutely do Black Bear Pass again, but next time I’m going to watch the weather report and try to avoid doing it in the rain and hail.
Days 5, 6, and 7
Sunday we packed up early and headed to Mesa Verde National Park, camping a few miles away at Target Tree Campground.
Pro Tip: For anyone planning to camp there, be warned that the GPS coordinates on the NPS website are off by about 30 miles. The correct location in N37°20’26”, W108°11’16”. We stopped at Mesa Verde along the way and followed a rocky ~2.4 mile hike to a wall of petroglyphs, returning via the flatter mesa, then continued on to the campground.
The following morning we returned to Mesa Verde to visit the Cliff Palace and Balcony House cliff dwellings, hiking down into the canyon and ascending via several wooden ladders up to 32′ tall. It was amazing to think these structures had been around for almost a millennium.
The following day we hopped in the truck and drove west to Canyons of the Ancients and Hovenweep National Monuments.
We started with a few hikes, the rocky terrain reminding us Moab, and the took the (lengthy) clockwise route around Canyons of the Ancients National Monument to Hovenweep National Monument.
Afterwards we went looking for a building called “Painted Hand”.
We never did find it, though we did take a fun 4WD trail that was moderately challenging we later found out was called “Cutthroat”. Tired we returned to our campsite, ready to pack up for New Mexico the following morning.
We packed up with the artist town of Taos, NM as our next destination. Once again we left early, this time taking an unplanned diversion to the Grand Sand Dunes National Park.
Although we initially decided to stop by to tick it off our list of national parks, we found the park incredibly beautiful with rivers, mountains, and far more to do than initially anticipated.
We were disappointed that we could only spend a few hours and determined that we would have to come back another summer when we could dedicate several days. Back on the road, we finished our drive to Fawn Lakes Campground near Taos and Red River, NM, arriving just in time to pitch camp and head into town for dinner.
The kids (including us big kids) snacked on fried bread, looked at Pueblo jewelry and art, and then wandered the Pueblo checking out the buildings, culture, and talking to the native americans.
We then headed to the Black Rock Hot Springs for a lazy dip. Unfortunately several people who seemed to have lost their clothes had beaten us there. Never discouraged, we headed further up river and took a trail down to the beach where the kids played in the water until they were ready for dinner.
Days 10 and 11
Once again we packed up camp, and drove just a few hours to Black Canyon Campground in the mountains to the east of Santa Fe.
We set up camp, finishing up as a big storm approached, and then headed into town for a few hours. Our plan was to check out some of the shops and museums, but unfortunately the power was out through most of the downtown area, so we ended up just wandering around until dinner.
The following morning we headed to Bandelier National Monument, just outside Los Alamos to the north. The cave dwellings weren’t as intricate as those at Mesa Verde, but it was very cool to climb up the ladders and into them. One set at the end of the trail had several steep wooden ladders, including one that was over 40′ tall.
In the afternoon we drove southeast to Pecos National Monument.
The red clay brick was dramatic against the blue sky, but the unique thing about this monument is that you can actually climb ladders down into the kivas.
After running around for the day we made our way back to the campground to cook dinner and relax, knowing we had quite a long drive ahead of us tomorrow to get to Carlsbad Caverns.
We would visit Carlsbad Caverns that evening, and then leave the following morning for Big Bend.
A few weeks before leaving my friend Dave Johnson told me about his trip out west though and insisted that I had to visit Guadalupe National Park. I had planned 4 full days in Big Bend, plus three days to return home, and as our trip went on we had debated trimming one day to check them out, knowing we were unlikely to come back. So we rearranged our trip and decided to camp an hour south of Carlsbad at Guadalupe NP for the night, just across the Texas border. We would visit Carlsbad the next day, and then leave the following morning for Big Bend.
We arrived at the park around 4pm, and were disappointed to find out that the wooded campground was only for tent campers.
Those with trailers, RVs, and vans could only camp in the parking spaces designated for RVs at the start of the trailhead. By this point however we were tired from the drive and didn’t want to backtrack 90 minutes to our original campground, so we paid the $8 and set up for the night.
We broke out the hibachi and grilled chicken for tacos in the parking lot, ate dinner, and played cards in the camper.
The following morning we wanted to do a hike before heading up to Carlsbad Caverns. El Capitan sounded epic, but would have taken a full day. The ranger recommended a hike called The Devil’s Hall, meandering from the trail head up a dry river bed.
The round trip hike took about 3 hours, most of which thankfully was at least partially shaded. The walk back to the camper was faster than the hike down (isn’t that always the case). We got back to the camper, ate lunch, and started the trip back into New Mexico to see Carlsbad Caverns.
We’ve been to a few natural caves before such as Luray Caverns, VA and Mammoth Cave, KY, but Carlsbad Caverns, with its enormous great room was even more impressive. Equally memorable was the smell of bat droppings that littered the entrance to the cave and permeated the air.
We were treated to the typical stalactites and stalagmites, of course, but also a interesting history of the caves.
For instance, when the early explorers visited the caves, they used wooden rope ladders to descend and had only candle-lit lanterns.
We finished off the tour of the great room, including the infamous “bottomless pit”. From our vantage point the bottom was just black, so it’s no surprise early explorers thought it went on forever. We learned from the sign however that modern explorers have descended it and measured a depth of 184′ – not quite bottomless, but I wouldn’t want to climb down.
Departing Guadalupe the following morning we headed to Big Bend National Park, our last big site. We passed El Capitan at the southern end of the Guadalupe Mountains and drove south to Marfa before entering the park through Terlingua, TX.
For the uninitiated, Marfa is an artist town in west Texas. Apparently some artist built a replicate of a Prada store in the middle of nowhere, filled with shoes and purses just like a real store. (The front door, however is inoperable. It was funny enough to we had to stop and take some photos (along with three other cars passing through the area).
We continued on to Big Bend, stopping at the visitor’s center for information on the first-come, first-served campsites available in the park.
Being mid-August and 102F, the rangers suggested we use the Rio Grande Village RV site, the only campground in the park with electricity. Stubbornly I decided we weren’t going to stay in another parking lot, and after checking out the Chisos Basin (which wasn’t really designed for trailers), we set up at Cottonwood Campground. The campground was completely empty. That was a plus as the kids were antsy and so the noise wouldn’t bother any neighbors, but it foreshadowed what was to be the hottest night any of us had ever experienced. That night we killed the battery, draining it until the meter had a frown. It never fully recovered.
The following morning we packed up and headed into Terlingua. We met our river guides at Big Bend River Tours, and they drove us into the park for a lazy day of canoeing and swimming in the Rio Grande.
Fun fact: the US-Mexico border actually runs through the center of the river. However, you don’t need a passport unless you set foot on land on the Mexico side. If you are caught crossing into (or back from) Mexico by the US border patrol, Customs and Immigration levies heavy fines and possible jail time, so we did not wade across and touch the Mexican side, we didn’t stop our canoes on the Mexican shore to stretch our legs, and we certainly didn’t climb on their muddy banks and jump into the Rio Grande over and over in an effort to cool off from the sweltering 100+F heat.
That evening after a brief rest, we headed back to Terlingua, parked the camper at an RV park, cranked up the A/C, and ate dinner at the Starlight theater.
Terlingua is a ghost town that has been partially re-established. Originally created to support the local quicksilver (mercury) mine, the town shut down in the 50s but now supports a small population. Apparently Terlingua is home to the original chili cookoff – and it showed. The burgers were good but the Terlingua chili was outstanding.
We went back to Terlingua for breakfast and locked Nate up in the town jail (just for a moment). We wandered through the town, checking out a few old buildings (some barely standing), rusty vehicles, and a church which appeared to still be in use. Then we headed out to do some hiking and 4WD exploration in Big Bend National Park.
First stop in the park for the day was Santa Elena Canyon.
We had originally hoped to raft the Rio Grande through Santa Elena Canyon, but we had been told earlier in the week that the river level was so low that the outfitter wouldn’t be able to float a raft. Thus the day before we ended up in two canoes along a less dramatic (but still beautiful) section of the river.
We still wanted to see the canyon, so we drove south to the river and the took a 1.2 mile hike out to an overlook inside the canyon. The view of Big Bend was incredible, but the temperatures were already soaring and so afterwards we decided to explore a more remote area of the park by taking the 4WD-only River Road, which winds along the basin near the Rio Grande for about 60 miles.
The higher parts of the River Road are gravel and are passable by any normal clearance sedan. However the bluffs regularly wind down to a dry river bed with ruts and moguls. Most would have been passable in 2WD, but high ground clearance was definitely required.
We followed the road for a few hours, pausing to take the occasional photo. Lacking shade, we stopped for lunch at ate off the back of the truck.
About 3 hours in we took a short detour and stopped at the Mariscal mine, an abandoned mercury mine. Storms were rolling in from the distance, and as we didn’t want to get caught crossing a low lying river bed during a storm, we took a few photos and headed back on the trail.
The next section of trail was called Black Gap, and featured a narrow passageway and moderately steep section with a drop of about 2′ at the end. While I was concerned at first having read that the park service no longer maintains the trail, the steep section had cement mixed in with some of the rocks (presumably to keep it from deteriorating) and some prior visitors had stacked rocks at the bottom to ease the drop. It was fun, but after our adventures in Colorado we were surprised at how easy it was.
As the rain picked up we sped up the pace and hit pavement about 45 minutes later, the whole trail having taken 4 to 5 hours.
We originally debated leaving Saturday, but after experiencing the August heat in the Chihuahuan desert and facing a 24 hour drive home we decided to spend the morning hiking and then head out after lunch on Friday instead of leaving early Saturday morning.
We headed up into Chisos Basin, leaving the trailer at the visitor’s center (the park service does not recommend trailers longer than 20′ on the road leading into the basin). The hike was about 4 miles round trip, leading us to a narrow but amazing view of the park.
We ate lunch, hooked up the trailer, and hit the road for home. Our plan was to stop somewhere in Oklahoma for the night, then in the Mark Twain National Forest the following evening just to break up the long trip back.
We drove through a few tremendous downpours in Texas before stopping for BBQ in Abilene. After a harrowing nighttime drive through multiple towns with no gas station, we found fuel and were able to fill up, before ultimately stopping to rest at an RV park just shy of Wichita Falls. (I wasn’t too worried, we had 4 gallons in our rotopax on the roof, just in case).
The following morning we hit the highway early and pressed on to the Mark Twain National Forest. We arrived in the late afternoon, found a free campsite, and set up for the evening.
The final day of the drive home was uneventful. It was dinner time by the time we arrived home, so we unhooked and unpacked, thrilled to take a warm shower longer than 60 seconds, turn on the TV, and start on a pile of dirty laundry that rivaled any of the mountains in Colorado.
Fun road trip stats:
- $1943.83 in gas
- ~5300 miles (I accidentally reset the trip meter, but this is pretty close)
- 8.1 MPG unadjusted (about 8.5 MPG after compensating for tire diameter)
- 36.6 MPH (unadjusted)
- 144.8 hours in the truck (aka “Butt-In-Seat” time calculated as miles / MPH)
Side note: I think my mileage hit this year was a combination of reduced aerodynamics from the new front bumper and a trailer that is almost 1000 pounds heavier.
We’re still deciding what to do next year. Maybe Rocky Mountain NP -> Great Sand Dunes -> Durango, CO -> Moab? Maybe Glacier and BANFF? Maybe Acadia?
This is one of my favorite modifications I’ve made to our new trailer so far. To be fair, I got the idea off the Lance Owners of America forum. While my work is specific to our 2015 Lance 2185 trailer, I suspect the mod would be similar in other models as they all seem to have this cabinet.
Lance ships their campers with a shallow “cabinet” that has a clock and two built-in magazine racks. I’ve read a few posts where people store flashlights, batteries, tools, dirty laundry, and other random assorted items in them (though ironically nobody seems to actually use them to store magazines). For us they just seemed like a waste of space, and while the Lance has a decent amount of cabinet space, as anyone who has ever lived out of a trailer or RV for a few weeks straight will tell you, there’s never enough cabinet space.
Since the inside of each cabinet section was about 12″ what I decided to do was move the curtain, take a circular saw, and cut out the front of the cabinet wall, opening up the space. In preparation I purchased a 10 1/4″ wide x 26 1/8″ tall cabinet door from Lance for $45 (the same cabinet that is above the sofa/bed), and some miscellaneous antique bronze hinges and handles from Amazon. The staff at Lance helpfully looked up the cabinet door information – apparently it is part # SD524A4 for my model. Manufacturing took 2-3 weeks, and after a total of about a month the door arrived.
Once the door arrived I broke out the battery-powered saw and went to town. The cabinets are 1/2″ think, so to avoid mangling the shelf I set my blade depth to just barely over 1/2″. It turns out the shelf screws into the front of the cabinet, but I was able to pry the front off and some needle-nose pliers made quick work of the screws poking out.
To cover the cuts I made, I purchased some 1/2″ wide U-mounting from T-moulding.com, and glued them to cut edges. The molding creates a small lip which made the door want to pop open, so I cut a small piece of excess molding to create a shim for under the hinge.
In the end the door fits nicely and seems like it should hold anything we put in it, even while bouncing around on the road. I left a lip on the bottom of the cabinet so that anything I put in it won’t slide out, though when I finish converting the TV cabinet to a pantry I will likely use the positive-close strut from another cabinet on this one, just to be sure.
As to what to put into the cabinet, the bottles of rum, whiskey, and tequila should fit nicely on that bottom shelf.
One of the best upgrades I did to our last camper was to install 200 watts of solar power in 2016. That upgrade let us camp for weeks off-the-grid out west, where dispersed camping and most of the campgrounds don’t have electricity. So when we bought a newer trailer this spring, I already knew what my first big upgrade was going to be.
On the old camper, I used a pair of 100W flexible solar panels and mounted them to the roof using Eternabond tape. That worked OK, though solar panels lose efficiency as they get hot so when we should have achieved the most benefit at high noon in August in Moab, UT they weren’t actually any more effective than at 3pm in Illinois in May. Also the protective laminate coating on the panels began to cloud up a bit and peel after the first year, degrading their effectiveness.
When I purchased the solar equipment for the Surveyor I never expected to have the camper for more than 5 years, but I intend to keep the Lance for at least a decade until all three kids are out of the house. On top of it the 200W flexible panels were sufficient to go about 3 days in a cloudy environment before needing a full day of sun to recharge, but I wanted to be able to run indefinitely on our setup. So with the new camper, I also wanted to install higher quality, higher efficiency, and more powerful components.
Equipment and Installation
To start, I ordered a pair of Newpowa 175W solar panels, and a Renogy Commander 40A MPPT charge controller, with remote monitor. The Newpowa panels are monocrystaline and therefore slightly higher output (19.06V) than the comparable 160W polycrystaline Renogy panels, but are the same size. That was important to me as it should allow me to use a different panel in the future if one becomes damaged or the Newpowa panels turn out to be garbage without moving the mounting brackets. Monocrystaline panels are slightly higher voltage and therefore slightly more efficient in cloudy and low light conditions, which is a bonus, and the MPPT controller should be more efficient and provide better battery maintenance than the cheap PWM controller I used in the last camper.
Similar to the last camper, I wired the panels in parallel using 8AWG wire and ran everything through the roof to the charge controller mounted in the front of the pass-through, and then underneath the camper along the frame to the battery. All the wiring was wrapped in plastic wire loom, and all entry points into the roof or floor were sealed with Dicor.
Before getting started I contacted Lance customer service and they kindly provided a number of PDFs for my model year 2185 camper that I used to determine where roof studs, 12V, and 120V wiring were located. If you have a 2015 Lance 2185 trailer you can download them from Lance Roof/Ceiling Schematic, or if you have another year or model just call Lance and they can provide ones specific to your roof.
I mounted the panels to the roof far enough forward to ensure that shadows from the A/C unit or other roof-mounted accessories were minimized, but I wanted to leave enough space that I could step to the front or outside of the panels if necessary.
Lance suggested using rubber well nuts to mount the panel feet to the roof instead of basic lag bolts.
While cleaning out the holes for the well nuts was time consuming and hard on my fingers, in the end I think it makes sense – the rubber well nuts should seal the hole even without Dicor and the Luan roof is only 1/4″ thick so a lag bolt wouldn’t have sufficient holding strength.
Although I didn’t take photos of it, after inserting the well nuts I ran a thick bead of Dicor non-sag sealant around the holes before installing the feet. Then once all the feet were properly attached to the roof I covered the bolt heads and feet edges with Dicor self-leveling lap sealant. The only place that didn’t get a second application of Dicor was the inside edge of the feed underneath the panel.
While I would really like to apply some, the panels only stand about 1″ above the roof, which is barely enough for me to squeeze a finger behind them and nowhere near tall enough to manage a caulk gun.
All the wiring was taped down with Eternabond. If you’ve never used that stuff, it’s amazingly strong and truly can’t be pulled up once cured without significant effort. I may cover the wiring completely in the future just to protect it from UV exposure.
To route the wiring from the roof into the trailer many people run their wiring down through their fridge vent. While I considered this option, it presents two issues. First is that getting to the wiring involves removing the fridge, which is heavy and really a non-trivial job. Second and more important to me is that voltage decreases over distance, and using the fridge vent would add about 15′ of wire between the panels and the charge controller, rendering the panels less efficient and ultimately producing about 5W less power. (For those interested in the math, the 175W panels generate 9.18A @ 19.06V. 15′ of 8AWG wire reduces that to 18.89V. Assuming maximum amperage doesn’t change 9.18A @ 18.89V is about 173W). So instead of using the fridge vent, I opted to run the wiring straight down through an interior cabinet and into the pass-through.
From here the connection goes to the charge controller, which steps down the voltage to avoid destroying the battery. To protect the charge controller, the wiring from the panels goes through a 40A Blue Sea circuit breaker. As an added bonus, since solar panels can generate significant current when the sun is out, if I need to do maintenance to the charge controller or battery I can simply trip the breaker to disconnect the panels from the electrical system.
For similar reasons I put a 40A breaker on the opposite side of the charge controller as well, inline between the controller and the battery. In theory I could have used 50A breakers for this since breakers are normally spec’ed for 120-125% of peak load, but the charge controller is only rated at 40A and I didn’t want to risk damage in the event of an over-current short of the panel, plus the controller should never see more than 18.5A from these panels anyway.
To get the wiring to the battery I drilled a hole in the trailer floor, wrapped the wire in wire loom, and ran it underneath the trailer along the frame directly to a 100Ah AGM battery. Side note: I used marine-grade tinned copper lugs for all bolted/threaded battery connections (10-32 for the breakers, 5/16″ for the battery itself), a good crimper, and heat shrink to keep the connections stiff. Annoyingly the Renogy controller didn’t come with a battery temperature monitor, so I ordered that separately on Amazon and will install it once it arrives.
Finally I hooked up the remote monitor and flipped the breakers on. The only configuration I had to do for my setup was to change the battery size to 100A. I was hoping to run the monitor to the interior but it only came with 6′ of RS-483 cable. I’ve ordered 15′ of straight through Cat-5, which should be sufficient for a short run (RS-483 is similar to Cat-5 but all pins are paired (i.e. 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 rather than Cat5’s 1/2, 3/6, 4/5, 7/8) and the cable is shielded) and will move the monitor in the future. As you can see, the panels were generating 1A @ 17.2V while the sun was low in the sky and a bit overcast at about 7pm.
I’ll provide updates about the effectiveness of this setup once I’ve run it for a bit, but so far I’m pretty happy with the result. About the only thing I would do differently in the future is to use L brackets to mount the solar panels instead of the solar panel-specific Z brackets I purchased. The aluminum Z-brackets work fine, but because they mount the panel so low to the roof if I ever need to remove the panels I will need to remove the feet from the roof. Simple L brackets mounted into the side of the panel frame rather than the bottom would be easier to remove in the future. For those interested in replicating this setup, I’ve published my PartsList along with costs and links.
Of course owning a trailer is like owning a boat – there’s always more work to be done.
Currently lithium batteries are too expensive to use, but as the price for LiFePO4 batteries comes down I will eventually switch. My 100Ah AGM battery cost $180, weighs 66 lbs, and can only be discharged to about 60% before it starts to damage the plate. Two AGM batteries would give me 120Ah usable capacity and would cost $360 but weight 132 lbs. A single 130Ah lithium battery would provide 117Ah and weight less than 30 lbs, but currently costs about $1,000.
The remote monitor for the charge controller tells me how much power is being delivered to the battery bank, but not how much I consume. Eventually I will wire in a shunt and a full battery monitor. I really like the SIMARINE Pico Blue but given the cost will probably start with a $30-40 basic LCD model.
The majority of the trailer runs off 12V power (lights, water pump, stereo, TV, fridge, and heater), but no way to readily power 120V appliances. We really don’t use the microwave and I can live without an air conditioner, but it would be nice to make a pot of coffee in 5 minutes with the Mr Coffee instead of 40 minutes with a percolator, and I know Christi would like to be able to dry her hair once in a while when we’re on a long trip or recharge her laptop if she wants to spend some time writing. I’m considering a 2000W pure sine wave inverter as part of next year’s upgrade.
If I ever need more power, there’s still enough space on the roof to add a pair of 50W-100W panels in series to the existing setup. Shadows from the A/C might render it less effective in the morning and evening though.
This spring we decided to sell our 2005 Forest River Surveyor 235RS camper and upgrade to a 2015 Lance 2185. The Surveyor served us well since purchasing it in 2012, but the boys are growing up and sharing a bed had meant more and more scuffling over space, blankets, and one of them kicking the other. On top of that the floor space was tight, and with the Land Cruiser we now have plenty of towing capacity.
After looking around I discovered that I could count the trailer models with triple bunk options manufactured this decade on two hands. I seriously considered the Dutchman Aerolite 2423BH/242BHSL, which had a really cool storage and lift system for the bunks. However the carrying capacity was quite low – so low that we wouldn’t be able to carry water, bikes, and all our remaining gear together – and Dutchman confirmed the rating was limited by the axles and not just the tires. Also it was a full 4′ longer than our current trailer, which meant I might have to give up our nearby alley parking space.
After far too much analysis on size, capacity, quality, and price, we ended up deciding on the Lance 2185. In terms of the layout it had everything we wanted – triple bunks, a slide out dinette, a walk around queen bed, and a (convertible) sofa. At about 4500# empty and 6000# gross weight it was a fairly light weight trailer, and best of all it was only 16″ longer than the Surveyor. I searched RVT.com and RVTrader.com, spoke to the local Lance dealer, and then started looking nationally for a good price with the intention of picking it up or shipping it back to us. In the end we ended up purchasing a 2015 Lance 2185 from Camping World in Wauconda, IL, as it was almost half the cost of a similarly equipped and delivered 2018.
Last year it was Yellowstone. This year our summer road trip culminated in an awesome visit to the Grand Canyon.
A bit of a late start, as I was dealing with some issues from adding larger tires and a 2″ lift to the truck, but in the end it only cost us half a day. After crashing overnight at an RV park near Keystone, NE, we started off in Breckenridge, CO Friday afternoon and met up with the “200LCDC“, a 200-series Toyota Land Cruiser club, for a multi-day trail run. Friday night we did a night trail ride up Peak 10, and Saturday we joined a subset of the group on a run up Red Cone (considered difficult) and down to Montezuma (easy).
The view from the top of Red Cone was awesome
and only a little bit of damage from a pretty tall rock we had to roll down on the trail up the mountain
Around Moab we hit two of the Canyonlands National Park districts (the Needles and Island in the Sky) as well as Arches National Park. The Needles district was my favorite. We did a short hike (about 2.5 miles) and then a longer (14-mile roundtrip) 4 wheel drive trail out to the Colorado River.
In the Island in the Sky district we took the 4WD Potash Road/Shafer trail into the park (a much more dramatic entrance than the paved highway) and stopped along the Colorado River. Once in the park we hiked out to the Grand Overlook which is where the Colorado and Green rivers meet and split Canyonlands into its four distinct districts.
- 4463 miles
- 36.2 mph average
- 8.8 mpg
- 507 gallons of fuel @ about $2.79/gallon = ~$1,414
- 123 hours in the car
- Potential to listen to “Holiday Road” on repeat 3354 times
Now I’ve started thinking where we want to go next year…